PTCbay Red Alert

[mugen]

It's still yellow alert. I've been told I would be paid this week so. We'll see about that.

The Admin received his payout yesterday. Hopefully he will update this with proof soon so everybody will see there is no need for members of PTCBay to be worried.

Thanks for updates bccromer ..
so ptcbay should be out of this YELLOW ALERT now xD?

[admin]

I did receive the payment but it took almost 2 months to receive it (I paid a membership that said I would be paid in no more than 5 days). The available refs for rent are active in the last 7 days so very often you get inactive referrals when you rent and you have to recycle them every 2 days in order to be able to get back your investment. I have requested a new payment as you can all see so the yellow alert is still in place but the admin seems to be doing a great effort in order to make his site work.

Si recibí el pago pero se llevó casi 2 meses. (Pagué una membresía que decía pagar en menos de 5 días). Los referidos para renta están estipulados activos en los útlimos 7 días por lo que es muy probable que al rentar uno sea uno inactivo y se tiene que estar reciclando cada 2 días para lograr recuperar la inversión. Solicité un nuevo pago cómo podrán ver todos así que la alerta amarilla continúa pero parece que el administrador está haciendo un gran esfuerzo para hacer que su sitio funcione.

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[bccromer]

Well first things first. When I took over as Admin I posted in the forum how long payments will take until it is caught up. You got paid in that time, so no need to complain. I have been up front about how long it will take. Second is that when you rent referrals it CLEARLY states that the rented referrals have been active in the last 7 days. If you don't like that, then don't rent. It's that simple. Don't complain about what you get when you know what you are getting before you pay for it. And third, half of your rented referrals have clicked today. That's right 120 out of your 230 something rented referrals clicked today. Hell I wish I could get that good of percentage on somewhere like NeoBux.

There is no need to "alert" people about PTCBay as it is and will always pay it's members. I would like to request that you go to the "whining" forum and respond to what I said there. In my opinion a site that is suspended for 24 hours would need more of an "alert" than a site that pays even if it takes longer than expected.

[admin]

Well first things first. When I took over as Admin I posted in the forum how long payments will take until it is caught up. You got paid in that time, so no need to complain. I have been up front about how long it will take. Second is that when you rent referrals it CLEARLY states that the rented referrals have been active in the last 7 days. If you don't like that, then don't rent. It's that simple. Don't complain about what you get when you know what you are getting before you pay for it. And third, half of your rented referrals have clicked today. That's right 120 out of your 230 something rented referrals clicked today. Hell I wish I could get that good of percentage on somewhere like NeoBux.

There is no need to "alert" people about PTCBay as it is and will always pay it's members. I would like to request that you go to the "whining" forum and respond to what I said there. In my opinion a site that is suspended for 24 hours would need more of an "alert" than a site that pays even if it takes longer than expected.

I notice that your anger shows in each word you say. I've been impartial about your site and said exactly what has happened in my own experience, nothing more and nothing less. I have the right to do so as you have the right to respond whatever you see fit and the decision about investing or not in your site is that of the public that reads about it. Even though I agree that you have been straight forward in your forum, I don't quite understand how you can owe people so much money that it takes 2 months to pay. I have the same amount of members and have only 5 payout requests that will be taken care of in the next week. My rented referrals have been active for the last 3 days and I don't complain in other peoples forums.

[bccromer]

I'm not angry at all. Just if you are going to tell the story then tell the entire story. The way you describe things makes it sound like I haven't been honest with the members, when I have done everything I can (even posted the financial stats).

How can "I" be 2 months behind on payments? Well as you know it was further behind than that when I took over as admin. I took it upon myself to pay out of my own pocket to work on getting payments caught up. If it weren't for it being behind when I took it over, then I would more than likely have instant payments right now because there has been money coming in. I have chosen to let people cash out their full value and not force them to reinvest. Not that there is anything wrong with the way you have it set here, but I don't like setting limitations on the money people have earned. 2,900 members at PTCBay and 2,000 members here isn't the same amount of members. In a large PTC site 900 members isn't a difference, but in smaller ones like our sites then it is a huge difference.

I don't complain in other people's forum either. I am a member here at Microjurasico, and wanted to let people know you have been paid since you didn't update it when you were. You know how easy it is for one bad apple to spoil it in an industry where your success is based solely on your reputation. Therefore calling out an honest site in a public forum is what I have a problem with, especially when you aren't as prompt with the good news as you are the things you consider bad.

[admin]

Fair enough with the slow response and the complaining in my forum. I have no further comments.

[admin]

Well, now I know for sure that PTCBAY is a SCAM PTC site. I will explain.

1.- I invested in that site and followed the rules
2.- I made my clicks and got referrals
3.- I requested my payouts and got paid 2 and a half months later
4.- I invested in a new membership and followed the rules
5.- I rented referrals with more than 7 days of activity but never the less started earning good money
6.- I requested payout when I reached $50.00 USD
7.- I waited for over 1.5 months and didn't get paid nor answers to my support tickets asking for it.
8.- Meanwhile I got paid through Alertpay with fraudulent funds from several members in my own PTC site (I lost about $300.00 USD in the process)
9.- Alertpay withdrew my funds and reversed my payments including that payment I made to Buxhost for a 1 year subscription)
10.- Obviously my site was suspended and I had no money to pay again.
11.- I stated this in my chatroom.
12.- The owner of PTCBAY decided that he could cancel my account and forefeit all my earings (about $200.00 USD) in total because of my own problems with my ptc site. This arbitrary decision is obviously a way to avoid paying his members even when the facts are that I never did anything against his Terms of Service. And he dares call me a SCAMMER. ¿What do you all think? ¿Who is the thief here? ¿Should I suspend his account and that of all his downline even if they didn't do anything against my TOS in my own site? ¿Should I let him steal from me and then pay him and all his friends instead of paying those who honestly deserve it?

I'll be glad to hear your commentaries but I warn you all. If you invest in PTCBAY you'll have a fat chance that your money will never come back.

Ahora me consta que PTCBAY es un Fraude.

1.- Invertí en el sitio y seguí las reglas.
2.- Hice mis clicks y junté referidos
3.- Solicité mi pago y recibí el dinero 2 meses y medio después
4.- Invertí en una nueva membresía y seguí las reglas
5.- Renté referidos y aunque los ponen con más de 7 días de actividad empecé a ganar buen dinero.
6.- Solicité mi pago cuando llegué a $50.00 USD
7.- Esperé más de mes y medio sin recibir mi pago ni respuesta del Admin cuando preguntaba por el.
8.- Mientras tánto recibí pagos por Alertpay de varios miembros de mi propia PTC con fondos fraudulentos (perdí cerca de $300.00 USD en ello)
9.- Alertpay retiró mis fondos y revirtió mis pagos hechos incluyendo aquel que le hice a Buxhost por una suscripción anual de mi sitio.
10.- Obviamente mi sitio fué suspendido y no tenía fondos para volver a pagar.
11.- Declaré todo ésto en mi Microchat de la barra de herramientas
12.- El dueño de PTCBAY decidió que podía cancelar mi cuenta y quedarse con mis ganancias (cerca de $200.00 USD) debido a mis problemas con mi PTC. Esta estrategia arbitraria es una clara muestra de su intención de no pagarle a sus miembros aún cuando la realidad es que yo núnca violé sus términos de servicio. Y todavía se atreve a llamarme defraudador. ¿Ustedes que opinan? ¿Quien es el ratero aquí? ¿Debería yo también suspenderlo y a todos sus referidos aún cuando no hayan violado mis términos de servicio? ¿Debo permitir que el me robe en nombre de la justicia pero yo si pagarle a el y a todos los suyos en vez de pagarle a todos aquellos que realmente se lo merecen?

Espero sus comentarios.

[Cristianita]

En primer lugar, qué sorpresa que siga abierto el foro. Y ya vi que también abre la PTC
¿Quiere esto decir, Micro, que continuará activa

Respecto a PTCBay, no entiendo qué relación pueda haber entre tu cuenta en PTCBay, y tu postura como Administrador de una página PTC. Pareciera que el Administrador sólo aprovechó el asunto del cierre de MicrojurasicoPTC para cancelar una cuenta, y tener menos deudas; porque yo tengo requerido un pago desde el 17 de mayo, y aunque, según los T.O.S., todavía está dentro del tiempo para pagarme, me imagino que así como yo hay mucha gente esperando su pago.

Qué lamentable que haya pasado esto.

First, what a surprise that the forum remains open. And I saw that also opens the PTC
Does this mean, Micro, which will continue active

Regarding PTCBay not understand what relationship may exist between PTCBay your account, and your position as Administrator of a PTC site. It seems that the Administrator took only the matter of closing MicrojurasicoPTC to cancel an account, and have less debt, because I have requested a payment from 17 May, and although, according to the TOS, it is still within the time to pay me, I think so many people waiting for their payment.

How unfortunate that this has happened.

[marbetvil]

Yo tambien estoy esperando mi pago en PtcBay desde hace 50 dias y ya tengo 3 $ mas para pedir el pago,no creo que vaya a cobrar,pero lo que mas me molesta de todo ésto es que las ptc quieren que invertamos dinero en éllas y como hacerlo si todas nos duran 2 telediarios,hay muy pocos administradores con escrúpulos y esto hace un mal nombre para las ptc en general, es mi humilde opinión

[Cristianita]

Sí, yo también estoy esperando el pago desde hace muchos días. Le sigo sólo para ver si realmente me pagará, o sólo estoy perdiendo mi tiempo